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Post subject: CATS in EXHAUST Required  PostPosted: Feb 21, 2005 - 01:13 AM
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Hi:

Have any of you had to install CATS in your exhaust system to meet State requirements?

Do you have pics of them?

If you did not, how did you overcome the requirements?


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Post subject: cats  PostPosted: Feb 24, 2005 - 10:07 PM
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I had a conversation with someone experienced in kit building on this;
he recommended installing one on each bank right after the headers/manifold for 2 reasons.
By the nature of their construction, cats take away a lot of the sharp "bark" of a pushrod SBC, which would otherwise make it very obvious that it's not a Lambo V12. And consider the reduction of harmful pollutants.
If you get large diameter ones, (3"), the performance loss is insignificant.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 25, 2005 - 02:03 AM
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http://www.lambobuilder.com/edb/Engine/Exhaust/Exhaust.htm shows how we installed our cats. We came out of header into 12" cat into a 2.5" pipe with a cross over before going to the Flowmaster 80 series mufrler.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 25, 2005 - 02:57 AM
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Hi:

Man, you must be using "stealth cats" I can barely make out where they are. What model and source did you get them from?

I found some generic CatCo 2.5" cats but no flanges.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 25, 2005 - 06:25 PM
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Be careful buying generic Cats, OEM ones will be more expensive, but If you pick up one that was originally designed for an OEM application using your engine, it will flow much better and give you better performance.

In the catalyst industry, any parts that are to plugged up or damaged to be sold to the OEMs are labeled "racing" or "aftermarket".

The OEMs spend between 15000-20000 hours on a dyno for each and every application tuning the converters.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 12:26 AM
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Hi:

Thanks for the input.

The Cat would be a CATCO HiFlow type with 2.5" IN / OUT pipes.

Hopefully Saturday we can get a ruling on this puppy.


I have reviewed sever 25 page State Statute documents to try and determine what is required.
Evidently 20 years of Perry Mason and Hill Street Blues has not paid off.

Maybe I should have watched Barnaby Jones.......... Shocked


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 04:13 AM
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dB,
Share what you find. I am going to be doing the same research in a few months. CA requirements are a killer. Would like to know how yours turns out. What state are you in?
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 04:21 AM
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Hi:

You bet I will. Very Happy

Right now I am in the state of confusion!
All the stuff I bought for the front of the engine does not appear to fit.

The Muffler guy is coming tomorrow and the "authorities" to review exhaust and hopefully have NO CATS. I think we should probably plan on it being there.

My goal was to have a running motor, exhaust and axles in 3 weeks.
Right now......... Crying or Very sad


Welcome to the builders reality.........NEXT!


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 04:48 AM
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i put cats on the red roadster because the customer wanted them to pass inspection but didn't have them on the orange roadster. i used aftermarket high flow cats that were 12", i'll see if i can find any pics of how i did it.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 04:57 AM
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this is the only pic i can find, i know i took others but don't know where i saved them.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 05:09 AM
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heres a better pic, you can see that they are under the axles on each side.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 26, 2005 - 02:15 PM
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Hi Shaddoe:

Do you have a source and P/N for the 12" CATS?

The CATCO Hi Flo I found were 14" long, 6.125" wide, and 4" high.
They are 2.5" IN/OUT and have no mounting flanges.


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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 27, 2005 - 03:22 AM
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www.vibrantperformance.com then click "Custom Exhaust Components"
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 27, 2005 - 03:25 AM
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PartID PartName PartDescription QtyRequired Unit Price Supplier ID Assembly ID
CTO-6806 Catalytic Converters Catalytic Converters 2 $70.19 Summit Racing Chassis - Engine

These were the ones we used

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 27, 2005 - 04:23 AM
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Hi Guys:

Thanks for the info.

The inspector guys here did not show up as scheduled today.

I did find a Dual IN and Dual OUT CAT that may be of interst.
I will try to get the specs on it tomorrow.


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